Heyy, you got an account ^_^! Keep on editing whenever/whatever you can! On a side note, today's Rune's birthday... he turns fifteen if we follow the storyline of the manga.... Reikanobutushi 02:20, February 5, 2011 (UTC)
Yep! I going to fix this place up! Ultimo Hana 02:22, February 5, 2011 (UTC)
Hi! Welcome to Ultimo wiki! It's nice to meet other Ultimo fans. Thanks for your work. KimeraRealm 00:33, February 6, 2011 (UTC)
KimeraRealm, it's me, Hana, the used-to-be-non-user person that edit a lot here. Ultimo Hana 00:36, February 6, 2011 (UTC)
Oh okay. It's great to see you have an account now. :) KimeraRealm 19:50, February 6, 2011 (UTC)
Thanks! Ultimo Hana 20:10, February 6, 2011 (UTC)
If you mean the sites, I guess that's a "yes" because we all go there to SEE new chapters of the series. Only user: Alois Trancy understands chinese and user: Reika is studying japanese and told us that she download some of the raws chapters. Their are three things I want you to do;
- Find someone that can be our translators, they need to talk to Reika about the raws scans, but here the link to the two Chinese site
- Ikunlun: http://c.ikunlun.net/tree.php?tree_id=70 Chapters are from top to bottom, new ones are at the bottom.
- Dm5: http://www.dm5.com/manhua-jiqiaotongzi-ultimo/ I mostly suggest this one to everyone to use this one, it's label their chapters by numbers
- If any one can tranalate chinese for us go here to Alois Trancy forum where he is translating the chapters from the chinese sites. He working on chapter 23, but not very into the Shounen Jump USA loop and didn't know we need chapters 21-25 translate. If any can translate chinese to English from us go here: http://ultimo-translate.leforumgratuit.com/t2-chapter-23, He's the on;y one there, I'm sure he will like the help! ^-^
2. Find someone that a post the translated chapters on online manga site. Tell him/her about the links.
3. SPREAD THE WORD TO THE AWESOME SERIES OF KARAKURIDOJI ULTIMO BY HIROYUKI TAKEI OF SHAMAN KING AND STAN LEE OF MARVELS COMICS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ^-^
You think you can do that? Ultimo Hana 03:56, March 9, 2011 (UTC)
For the translations, I need you to make a page specifically on Ultimo wiki so I can tweet and link the page back to Wikia. Otherwise, I can't link to a site that's not part of Wikia. I can tweet that but please give me a link that's relevant on Ultimo wiki so I can link it back...and then I can do it for you. :) Kate.moon 04:00, March 9, 2011 (UTC)
There a forum page called "We need A Translator": Forum:We Need A Translator. Will that do? Ultimo Hana 04:23, March 9, 2011 (UTC)
Yes, I'll use that. I'll tweet saying Ultimo Wiki needs translator help with a link to the forum. Hope it helps Kate.moon 19:12, March 9, 2011 (UTC)
Thanks! Ultimo Hana 19:26, March 9, 2011 (UTC)
Hey, I sent out a tweet about translators, so I hope someone will contact me or the wiki! Let me know if you need anything else! Kate.moon 00:52, March 10, 2011 (UTC)
Thanks a lot! ^-^ Ultimo Hana 00:54, March 10, 2011 (UTC)
Um...how do i put images on chapter pages
Have you seen Chapters 42,43,and 44?
I like a lot of dojis. --Ultimo Hana (talk) 22:03, December 7, 2013 (UTC)
All the good ones, naturally. I have a soft spot of Jealous too. --Ultimo Hana (talk) 23:07, December 7, 2013 (UTC)
It's not the slideshows that the problem.....exactly. The articles here are small and there really no proper room for it. Plus, those pictures aren't even cropped nor it has any significance purpose. --Ultimo Hana (talk) 22:27, December 8, 2013 (UTC)
I cropped pictures using the edit option of my computer and clean off the talk bubbles with the paint option. Anyway, how are you going to make room? Biography is about being accurate and useful. You can't put any irrelevant or speculations on it and you need evidence to back the info you put up. Just showing pictures of every angle of Slow isn't very useful. --Ultimo Hana (talk) 22:42, December 8, 2013 (UTC)
I am making a wiki, if you want to you can join(I am making it right now.)http://the-otaku-dream.wikia.com/wiki/The_Otaku_Dream_Wiki
No thanks. And a piece of advice, I see many wikis that was start up one person, and they mostly end up abandon sooner or later if say wiki's topic doesn't attract more users that are willing to do the job or put in the efforts. You better think carefully about whether yours will succeeded or not without word spreading its creation a around.--Ultimo Hana (talk) 00:30, December 9, 2013 (UTC)
Hey! Are you and this SlowDeer the only two here? I mean wheres everyone else on this wiki, I looked to see No longer active people on here. That's pretty sad if you ask me!!126.96.36.199 02:52, December 9, 2013 (UTC)
Hi! How are you these days? Do you go to school?
It's only been a day. I'm fine.--Ultimo Hana (talk) 02:57, December 10, 2013 (UTC)
I know...hehehe...So Miss Hana, when are you going to work on chapter summaries?SlowDeer is very curious,you know.Do you have a favorite anime you like,SlowDeer is very curious? Mine would be Ultimo, then Higurashi,Touhou( Not an anime, but who cares) and Madoka Magica. I can't take for a long time I have school tomorrow.So I hope you have a nice night. :3SlowDeer (talk) 03:24, December 10, 2013 (UTC)
I like a lot of anime and manga.--Ultimo Hana (talk) 03:05, December 11, 2013 (UTC)
Too many to names. --Ultimo Hana (talk) 22:01, December 11, 2013 (UTC)
Oh I see.....I do too, but I chose Ultimo
Oh, you're new. If you can tried editing any articles, especially characters pages, but be mindful how you write. --Ultimo Hana (talk) 23:47, December 11, 2013 (UTC)
Reading mostly.--Ultimo Hana (talk) 01:15, December 13, 2013 (UTC)
I see. I do prefer manga, but I have some brilliant written novels in my collection.--Ultimo Hana (talk) 20:00, December 13, 2013 (UTC)
Higurashi? I don't even know what that is.--Ultimo Hana (talk) 01:32, December 14, 2013 (UTC)
Hmm, I don't really remember that. But just to let you know, if one does do it, it will breaks the the Wikia community and Wikipedia agreement about using each other info. At least, that's what I understand. --Ultimo Hana (talk) 01:32, December 14, 2013 (UTC)
This is what you saidWHY YOU?!?!?! HOW DARE YOU COPY OFF OF THE ULTIMO WIKI!!!!!!!!!188.8.131.52 05:01, December 14, 2013 (UTC)
Ah, well that was a while ago, so I don't really remember it much. It's deosn't really matter now anyway.--Ultimo Hana (talk) 20:10, December 14, 2013 (UTC)
Don't know. Users do have lives outside of the Internet.--Ultimo Hana (talk) 20:52, December 14, 2013 (UTC)
Never even heard of it.--Ultimo Hana (talk) 22:56, December 14, 2013 (UTC)
Y...you n-never heard of Higurashi...Hm....well...it's kinda of about mystery and gore.....To see look at this wiki.http://whentheycry.wikia.com/wiki/Higurashi_no_Naku_Koro_Ni_WikiParudone-kun (talk) 23:26, December 14, 2013 (UTC)
I don't really like gory horror stuff.--Ultimo Hana (talk) 23:33, December 14, 2013 (UTC)
- cough* My mom didn't really like , because repeats and tells everyones point of viewParudone-kun (talk) 00:27, December 15, 2013 (UTC)
Yo.--Ultimo Hana (talk) 18:13, December 22, 2013 (UTC)
Hi!! I forgot to tell you merry christmas yesterday so Merry Christmas! I finally got volume 9 and other ultimo stuff! Like a bagde with Dustan on it,a bag with ultimo on it from a anime convention,and a shonen jump special of chapter 0.SlowDeer (talk) 23:17, December 26, 2013 (UTC)
Sounds nice, good for you.--Ultimo Hana (talk) 18:33, December 27, 2013 (UTC)
I'm sorry to brag184.108.40.206 19:45, December 27, 2013 (UTC)
It's okay.--Ultimo Hana (talk) 19:46, December 27, 2013 (UTC)
It's fine, I know how anime conventions work and what they sell.--Ultimo Hana (talk) 20:38, December 27, 2013 (UTC)
No offense, but I only believe in maintaining civility among the Internet users. --Ultimo Hana (talk) 20:55, December 27, 2013 (UTC)
Not really, they only be a team for about a day in the timeline, so they won't really memorize each other just yet, at least on Slow's side. And to the suffix "chan" is commonly use for girls, using it for boys can be insulting to them. --Ultimo Hana (talk) 01:31, December 28, 2013 (UTC)
No, "chan" be use on boys sometimes too. Knowing Kiyose, she use it in a affection way, but I guess Slow doesn't like it because to some boys being address with "chan" is a damper on their masculinity. --Ultimo Hana (talk) 01:46, December 28, 2013 (UTC)
Hi. --Ultimo Hana (talk) 23:21, December 28, 2013 (UTC)
Fine. --Ultimo Hana (talk) 01:15, December 29, 2013 (UTC)
Just novels. --Ultimo Hana (talk) 02:25, December 29, 2013 (UTC)
.......Huh? What are you talking about? --Ultimo Hana (talk) 22:10, December 29, 2013 (UTC)
Okay. --Ultimo Hana (talk) 23:45, December 29, 2013 (UTC)
I have no idea what that is.--Ultimo Hana (talk) 19:35, December 30, 2013 (UTC)
Ah, thy're a music company's mascot\, right? I seen their faces around, but have real idea what their names are. --Ultimo Hana (talk) 19:40, December 30, 2013 (UTC)
Okay. --Ultimo Hana (talk) 19:51, December 30, 2013 (UTC)
Hello. --Ultimo Hana (talk) 19:38, January 1, 2014 (UTC)
Fine. --Ultimo Hana (talk) 02:16, January 2, 2014 (UTC)
Not really, you guys have only been here for a little while and haven't done any major contribute. --Ultimo Hana (talk) 02:33, January 2, 2014 (UTC)
We had this discussion before. Anyway, I'm NOT the one that made the staff list. One of the older users did, I just fix it up to the current status. --Ultimo Hana (talk) 03:28, January 2, 2014 (UTC)
Hello. --Ultimo Hana (talk) 19:32, January 11, 2014 (UTC)
Hey there its been a few years since I was last here, and I was wondering if your running the entire wiki by yourself now?
Pretty much. Some users stop by once and a while though. --Ultimo Hana (talk) 19:07, March 6, 2014 (UTC)
Kinda feels like it sometimes, huh? The series comes out bi-monthy and Takei is also doing his Shamen King Flowers manga, right? Well, try translating the chapters that involves Yamato meet his future self and all. --Ultimo Hana (talk) 04:23, May 22, 2014 (UTC)
This Tumblr user have links you can use: http://kawahageshii.tumblr.com/tagged/karakuridoji-ultimo. --Ultimo Hana (talk) 18:20, May 22, 2014 (UTC)
okay, but i dont have anything thats chinese, i think, i dont find the raw scans ? and my bad for regula, but its not Peking, it's Beijing and it's not specially an opera, wukong came from the novel. Ascheriit (talk) 22:04, May 22, 2014 (UTC)
I have all the English volumes, I just go on what I read. And all the chinese sites we use to use, haven't update the new chapters for months! I don't know any other sites to go to. --Ultimo Hana (talk) 03:29, May 23, 2014 (UTC)
Okay I see, and stop screwing up the capital's name, I mean, seriously, it's Beijing, not Peking, Peking is a retarded pronounciation and do I even need to recall that I am the chinese dude here ? So just stop, that's insulting. Even more that the character of Sun Wukong really came from the novel, that's his ****** origin, not the damn opera ! Yes, I sound mad, because I've told you once already and you changed it back and I am telling the truth so just stop changing it, this is a wikia, you can't just go around and write what you want ! You have to write only the truth. Ascheriit (talk) 04:59, May 27, 2014 (UTC)
All right, all right.....I know data info can have mistakes in them, so I'll trust your words. --Ultimo Hana (talk) 17:27, May 27, 2014 (UTC)
Okay. A lot of interesting things happen when Yamato meet his future-self! --Ultimo Hana (talk) 20:03, May 27, 2014 (UTC)
Yes, I've read it, seems like the books are more far than the actual scans, my translations wont be of any help now, I will keep on looking for editing the explanations to help Ascheriit (talk) 19:33, May 28, 2014 (UTC)
Sounds good. That tumblr user's comments help me understand some things, but it really goes down to my interpretation of it. --Ultimo Hana (talk) 19:36, May 28, 2014 (UTC)
Hi ! What's your favorite fight in the manga until now ? Mine's Rune vs Akitsu, that one clearly deserved some compliments. I really hope they make an anime because that's like the only way ultimo could make a come back right now. Recently, we did not see much about Yamato and Vice, I mean, yes we do see them, but they are like exchanging some hits and then gets in the background and let other characters introduce the story. they dont have a clear fight that lasts more than 5 pages and not much of interaction neither. 220.127.116.11 02:56, June 6, 2014 (UTC)
I like the fight between Yamato and Rune. Karakuri Doji Ultimo isn't a famous series like Shaman King was. I'll just support the series as much as I can. --Ultimo Hana (talk) 02:59, June 6, 2014 (UTC)
Yeah, but there only enough chapters for about one season. --Ultimo Hana (talk) 21:09, June 6, 2014 (UTC)
i recently bought books 8,9 ans 10, i really wish akitsu and kodaira will have something more than just a fight. and wtf is jun chichibu seriously ? if in the future, K is still vice's master, then why the heck did this character still exist ? and ... okay, there's no way vice and ultimo could ally themself together, theorically, except if sayama's done something to vice's brain. K seems ok to cooperate, but vice ... i really don't think so. Ascheriit (talk) 23:00, June 6, 2014 (UTC)
Jun has the potenal to Vice's master, but Vice doesn't want him. Rune is the only reason he still alive after that beating. In the future, I think they are only fighting alongside each other to stop Dunstan's robots. They aren't allies, just two group with a bigger priority. --Ultimo Hana (talk) 23:15, June 6, 2014 (UTC)
Hello! [ Is it the right way of sending messages to Wikia members? PM way would be so nice] I heard you needed help here, what it is exactly? I can send you the link for KdU anime if you wish Lu Douji (talk) 15:08, July 2, 2014 (UTC)
Ah, you're that Tumblr that post Ultimo Spoilers! Any contributes to the Wikia is welcome, though I like to take time considering majority of the characters appeared very little and there's no rush to their bios. What I really want is help with figuring what happen in the raws chapters. All the chinese I use to too are down and haven't post chapters in over a year! I know about the fananime you been doing, but I'm not very open to downloading anything on my laptop. It's an VERY OLD type and it can't handle a lot of things. Anyway, don't suppose you can tell me what excalty happen from Chapter 42-47? --Ultimo Hana (talk) 17:42, July 2, 2014 (UTC)
Hmm I have reviews of each chapter about what I could see, I am not that fluent in japanese so I could not understand everything they are saying, but it describes what they are following, will it be fine? For chapters 46 and 47 I'm still waiting to have the magazine volumes.. Do you need translated chapters 39, 40 and 41? Lu Douji (talk) 18:26, July 2, 2014 (UTC)
I don't have the translation for Chapters 39-41, but I seen the raw Chinese pages. Any information is fine, Please tell me! --Ultimo Hana (talk) 18:38, July 2, 2014 (UTC)
Yep, I still don't know how to use Wikia very well so is there a specific page to post news or can I just send the summaries right here? Also, I can send these 3 chapters to you [sent by e-mail to some bros], I made them full translated to english~ Lu Douji (talk) 19:13, July 2, 2014 (UTC)
We have a Forum page here - http://ultimo.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:Ultimo_News, if you want to use it. I have a Yahoo, so we can use that. I'll send it to you via Tumblr. --Ultimo Hana (talk) 19:19, July 2, 2014 (UTC)
Hi, Just a simple question, but are there any administrators in this wiki? At my home wiki (Modern Combat Wiki) where its huge, they have more than 10 admins. Legionary (talk) 01:41, July 17, 2014 (UTC)DT PhilosopherLegionary (talk) 01:41, July 17, 2014 (UTC)
No, usually it's just me here, but other users pop up once and a while. Things are slow here due all the factors the series has --Ultimo Hana (talk) 03:35, July 17, 2014 (UTC)
Yes, you can. You just have to follow any pages you want to keep an eye on. --Ultimo Hana (talk) 19:08, August 4, 2014 (UTC)
Welcome! If you have any questions about this place or Ultimo, ask me and I'll answer the best I can. I'm very busy these days, but I'll get to them as soon as I can. --Ultimo Hana (talk) 02:47, October 15, 2014 (UTC)
The Wikia Central won't delete this wiki or anything. And I'll still complete it in my own way and will still use it as my home base. Anything else is up to what others will do. --Ultimo Hana (talk) 02:18, October 23, 2014 (UTC)
There are wikis who's series are finished, but they are still semi-active. --Ultimo Hana (talk) 02:27, October 23, 2014 (UTC)
Yeah, but I kinda suspected this. Ultimo is the one those type of manga series kinds will end around 12 to 14 volumes. everything has to come to a end sooner or later. --Ultimo Hana (talk) 21:28, October 23, 2014 (UTC)
Since I'm not good at making summaries, I'm just gonna tell you what happened. ----
Yamato and Ultimo came home from the funeral,wondering where Yamato's mother is. Yamato remarked that her job is hard and goes to take a shower. He thought that Ultimo was upset and says he shouldn't be down to. Yamato forgot his underwear and asks Ulti to bring his undergarment. Although, Fushimi was in his room, putting a dress on Ultimo. Yamato was confused and questioned his mother why put girl clothes on Ulti. Fushimi got angry and remarked,"You talkin' back to me? Without any pants on?! I always wanted a girl, you know!" she always wanted a girl but stuck with a oversized boy. Then Ultimo questions him " Yamato-sama...is it true people hesitate to kiss the one they truly love?" which angers Yamato to the point that he storms off to his room without clothes on. Ulti gets worried,but Fushimi tells him to let him be,she remarks that he is just like his father. Fushimi gives Ulti Yamato's underwear that she just bought from the store. Yamato is in his room sulking about " I was going to console Ulti, but ran off in disgrace!" and he still hasn't solved the Sayama and Musayama problem. Ultimo comes to cheer up Yamato and brought his under wear. Yamato remarking that he should get that dress off of Ultimo. Suddenly, Sayama comes to the door and accidently seeing Yamato taking off the dress with Akitsu and Matsumoto by her side.( What it appears to them that Yamato is putting the dress on Ulti.) They tell Yamato and Ultimo that theres a problem somewhere.
Musayama remarked that they bothered him and Yoichi welcomed him. With a strange van behind them with Saya, Akitsu, and Matsumoto inside of it. Yamato didn't like the vibe of the van and questioned where they are going. Yoichi answers him that they are goingo on a study trip. Meanwhile, Kaizo telling Hibari to join evil while Hibari rejecting him. Kaizo gives up in convincing her and sends Avaro to kill her. Yamato and Ulti intervines while the rest the good doji and masters come to help her. K panicks the fact that all the good doji is here and Vice in his new form remarks that he doesn't care and it will easiar just to kill them all right now. Vice and Ultimo face each other for battle, Vice charges at Ulti. Ultimo stops time and remarks how he feels bad for him. Vice breaks free from the time stop and attacks Ulti. Vice tells them that he has a new power called Noh Steal!
Be right back with more later!!!
Thanks, so Vice's new power is called "Noh Steal"! --Ultimo Hana (talk) 18:28, December 18, 2014 (UTC)
Pardonner?!? Really?!?! Cool!! ^-^ --Ultimo Hana (talk) 18:35, December 20, 2014 (UTC)
It was from twitter and Cobalt-patch tumblr(although you have to get from twitter. User I got it from was,say tati, you'll see it on Cobalt-patch tumblr. He looks so fabulous on a cover!!! +v+ Fujiwara-chan (talk)
Yeah, Pardonner is beautiful! --Ultimo Hana (talk) 20:23, December 20, 2014 (UTC)
You mean the fanarts? A lot fans tend to guess what color characters would until they see a real, official image of them. --Ultimo Hana (talk) 22:10, December 20, 2014 (UTC)
In a week or so. --Ultimo Hana (talk) 02:08, December 22, 2014 (UTC)
Now, now....Lu-doji's translations says she wants to beat her dad and still somewhat cares for her friends, but she isn't above using the evil side's powers. --Ultimo Hana (talk) 19:56, December 24, 2014 (UTC)
Being honest, I can't say I like her that much either, but as along she is Yamato's ally, she's okay in my book. --Ultimo Hana (talk) 20:08, December 24, 2014 (UTC)
People on other wikias are buttholes (-_-) Not appreciating the edits I do to help the wikia. They delete the pages I make and they make worser pages than me. They call me stupid and my grammar is all wrong, and clearly I spell better than they do. They make so much spelling errors to the point it's not even funny. -Sighs and bangs head against computer- I really found out that you are a very good person and understands stuff more than everyone else( even my parents) P.S. I love Ultimo! Fujiwara-chan (talk) 20:32, December 24, 2014 (UTC)
I like be pragmatic as the best I can, that's the trick to making sure keep yourself and other users happy. Adapt to a particular Wikia's style and make sure your edit is has good grammar and the info can be supportive.......But yeah, some Wikias just has idiots with big egos and want everything their way.....What can you......\VV/ --Ultimo Hana (talk) 21:05, December 24, 2014 (UTC)
Cool.....I'm good at summaries, but sometimes I have trouble describing the ICONs forms, Kakauri Hange and clothes. How good are at those stuff? --Ultimo Hana (talk) 01:29, December 26, 2014 (UTC)
That's good! I'm never be very be into mecha stuff, so robots description is not my strong suit! V^^ --Ultimo Hana (talk) 19:31, December 26, 2014 (UTC)
Yo! Nice to meet ya! Is it okay to start asking questions? First, can you tell me about the future versions of Yamato and the others? What did everybody say to Yamato and how the treated him before he was send back? aAd what did Yoichi says to Yamato? Second, what was Vice and Sayama up to? Also, can you explained how a doji's "Second" form works? What did Rune and Jealous talk about before meeting Yamato? Did Rune mentions why he starting cross-dressing? Fourth, during Yamato and Rune's battle, what did they talk about? Is Rune on the good side now? Is Ultimo and Jealous is okay with that? Lastly, what the heck is Sayama doing? What is Regla doing? --Ultimo Hana (talk) 23:25, January 2, 2015 (UTC)
No worries!! I'll try my best to fill you in >-< >>>>Spoilers from chapter 44-49<<<<
Yamato is sent to the future and there, Rune explains the Good and Evil douji are together as one fighting against Dunstan thanks to Yamato bonding those forces in the past. However, this is the second time they try to beat him, as they failed the first time. Yamato doesn't understand why is he there. Then all the Good Douji fuse together and create the GUFTD (God Ultimo Frontal Till Dawn), but one team member is missing, Sayama. She suddenly appears and Yamato discovers she's Dunstan's daughter and then he is sent back to the past before she erases his memory. He's devastated and can't trust Sayama anymore, and tells Yoichi about it. Yoichi says that people may change minds, and also have their reasons to do things, and that evil and good don't exist by themselves, but they are a result of each other. He also says that Sayama must be the one suffering more, for she has been living in the shadows, so Yamato resolves he will save her, and that's what Future!Yamato was wanting him to realize, so they can be complete in the future.
Yamato rushes to talk with Sayama and Fusataro gets in the way. Yamato wants to make him become an ally, so they fight and the one who wins will be the other's ally. Ultimo is in a disadvantage, as Evil douji can create more skills while Good douji can't. Yamato and Ultimo are roasted by Rage's lighting bolt, and Rune comes to stop it (he was watching the fight and kept saying how sincere and good hearted Yamato is), saying he will take care of Yamato. Yamato is not defeated yet, and says he wants to fight Fusataro until he apologizes for making fun of Sayama, and that Rune and Jealous shouldn't interfere or he will wreck them. Rune find this to be stupid and orders Jealous to make Yamato suffer to show him how stupid he is, so Jealous chops his arm off. Rune says that pain is for what he had to suffer everytime Yamato talked about Sayama, but he would ask Vice to heal him later. Yamato says he won't answer him the way he wants, to wich Rune pokes him with his umbrella and says he only wants Yamato to apologize to him for talking about Sayama all the time. After that Yamato's feelings converge and he says he understand now. Uru explains that Good and Evil have always existed separated and people used them for their own interests, and this is what Yamato should do now with his power. His arm is healed thanks to Service stopping Jealous and Ultimo going back to just before it got severed. Yamato tells Rune they will keep their Love Battle, and the one who wins posesses the truth. Ultimo and Yamato achieve the GUFTD transformation after conveying all these love feelings in Ultimo and the fight starts. Sayama is now on the Evil side, gathering with Vice and the rest.
After that, I'm not sure what exactly happens, but what I know is that during their Love Battle, Yamato says that love is the Ultimate Good, and it doesn't matter if Rune's a man or a woman, he still loves him from the bottom of his heart. Then Sayama comes and erases Rune's memory and leaves him unconscious or something, saying that Yamato should only love her.
And in act49 Sayama says this is her battle and she must defeat Dunstan. She feels responsible because he's her father and doesn't want anyone else to get hurt... I assume everyone else shows up and supports her, and tell her they will fight together. Yamato apologizes to her for realizing just now all the pain she had to go through and for all she had to suffer alone. Sayama gets all emotional and lastly, Dunstan appears saying she is being bad daughter and she should punish her.... and that's the end of the chapter! I don't know what happened because I haven't seen the scans or read it yet >< Rune was knocked down before they could settle it and the main concern right now is Sayama. Also... Rune probably wears feminine clothing because he knows he looks pretty on them haha, he's most likely genderqueer.Aonik (talk) 00:37, January 3, 2015 (UTC)
WOW! 0o0 THANK YOU SO MUCH! THINGS MAKE MORE SENSE NOW! I can't wait know what happens next. --Ultimo Hana (talk) 00:43, January 3, 2015 (UTC)
I didn't think that this was worth discussing on the History Page topic. But, would you be willing to help out on the Makai Ouji wiki, too? There's only me and about two other people working on it and there is an annoying contributer who changes the infoboxes sometimes. Moonlit Huntress (talk) 22:34, December 30, 2015 (UTC)
Although I'm a fan of the series, have no interest in working that wiki. Also, if you have an "annoying" contributor around, my advice is to talk to them or ban them for a few days, if the that's in your power to do so. --Ultimo Hana (talk) 22:44, December 30, 2015 (UTC)
It's alright. --Ultimo Hana (talk) 20:27, January 9, 2017 (UTC)
Here to Help Edit
Hello, my name is DuchessDream.
I have recently been re-reading Ultimo and felt like helping this wiki. I see you've done a lot by your self. I also read your profile page and saw that you had "difficulty with coding and grammar". I am pretty good at grammar and I have a handle on coding. I'd like to offer my help in optimizing the wiki. I have been an admin on other wikis for a few years and have a pretty decent understanding of HTML. With that, I can help add templates and somewhat stylize this wiki a bit better.
Please let me know if there is anything I can do to help clean up!
Hello! Thank you for reaching out! I welcome any help, but I'm sure you can see that the Ultimo Wiki is pretty simple in general due the small cast of characters and the series is rather obscure, so the style itself is simple. When it comes to any clean-up, building bios or cleaning the chapters article is always helpful. There's no rush or pressure to do anything. I'm been here mostly by myself for a long while, so I'm not used to directing anyone! V^^ As for coding, I really don't know what to say about it, as the style is simple, but if you develop things like the front page or templates (I actually been thinking to make one large navigation template for the characters one day) into something better (preferably still uncomplicated since this wiki doesn't need anything flashy like slideshows), feel free to give it a shot! --Ultimo Hana (talk) 19:53, May 15, 2020 (UTC)
Some Changes I was thinking About Edit
I'm never too sure where to respond when it comes to talk pages. So first, I'd like to suggest switching the wiki from talk pages to message walls. It's a lot easier to keep track of conversations that way.
While I understand you'd like to keep things simple, there are something things design/format-wise I'd like to implement or update. Namely the templates. If you need some examples, here is one. I'm a pretty particular person, so I may appear picky about how things look or are organized.
If it helps, would you like for me to make a sandbox page for myself and come up with drafts for you to see? Also, I'm not very good at summarizing things, so I'd say it's good that your strong point is summarizing and writing.
I'm the admin of a few wikis and would like to implement some of the organizational ideas from those, to here. It will make for a more efficient way to search the wiki as well as be visually easy to understand. Not to over step my bounds here, but might I ask for the "content moderator" role? It'll allow me to use the dashboard (which makes it way easier to look things over). Respond when you can!
We can just stick to my talk page. I don't like going back-and-forth either. But for the message wall, I don't think that a good idea. Hear me out. Because this wiki is so small and barely anyone really comes here, there's no point or need to have a message wall. It's for practicality's sake.
You idea for the templates seems interesting. Just to be sure, you're talking about the character's infoboxes, right?
It's embarrassing for me to admit, but I don't know to give the "Moderator" status to anyone. I receive my own status out of the blue from the last person in charge of the wiki. Even then, giving status right away doesn't feel right, since I had to edit a couple of months before getting my status from the two leaders of the wiki back then. If you want to practice, there's a Sandbox you can use. Will that do? --Ultimo Hana (talk) 21:33, May 15, 2020 (UTC)
Please inform me as to why you feel the talk page is more practical than the message wall. I find talk pages to be very messy. Also, I don't see how "hardly anyone comes here" is a good reason to not make changes. I don't mean to sound harsh, but there are a few changes I would really like to make for both the format and design of the wiki. As it stands now, (and this is coming from someone with a lot of wiki experience) it is too dark and difficult to navigate. Visually, there is too much in some places, and too little in others. If you feel I am being too abrasive, I apologize, that is not my intent. I'm a fairly blunt person by nature.
And while I understand the idea of "you have to be around longer to get a status changed", I would say that of a normal user who has little to no administrative experience. And as you yourself admitted, you don't know how to do some of the administrative things, where as I do, because I am an admin of multiple wikis for around 3 years. May I ask if you are a native-English speaker? I'd like to know to better understand the situation here.
P.S. Something I forgot to mention, I'm from Canada so I use the UK version of English. This might look weird if I correct certain words on articles.
If you explore the wiki, you can see that Talk pages barely even used here and my own Talk page is even that long. Implementing a Wiki Feature such as the Message Wall serve no purpose that a Talk page can already fulfill. Message Wall might be useful in big, active wikis, but there's also a lot big, major wikis that don't use at all either, like the KH Wiki, FF wiki, or Harry Potter Wiki.
As for navigation, I figured some people might find it a bit cumbersome, but everything can be found rather easily through links the menu header. For some pages involving locations and the time period, I been thinking of combining some pages since there's too many small articles or deleting some stuff in the long-run, as the series doesn't have a lot of major locations. As for the visual aspects, I do plan to upload images to decorate bios and chapters in a later time.
I'm native-English speaker from the U.S. And you not being harsh, so don't worry about it. I know I probably sound pretty unreasonable, but Ultimo wiki has always one that been purely functional and simple. --Ultimo Hana (talk) 23:11, May 15, 2020 (UTC)
- I'm not sure if you h ave ever been a part of a wiki that uses the message walls, but I can already tell you that a message wall is much more useful. Instead of having a bubble appear saying "you have a message on the ultimo wiki", it will appear in the top right corner with both the subject, sender and wiki it appears on. When I click on that, it takes me to the exact thread that has new activity. Where as with this talk page, it only takes me to the talk page. I then have to scroll or click the the header in the table of contents and then sort out which text is mine and which is yours. I know there are signatures but they are not as visually apparent as a whole bubble. I also don't find the reason of "it's barely used anyway" as a reason to not implement this feature. Also, the wikis you mentioned are very old and most likely started with that kind of feature. Just because a big wiki uses the feature, doesn't make it more acceptable to use. In fact, it makes it 10x worse.
- While there is a level of navigation in the header/drop down menus, it can be improved further. When I first opened this wiki, I didn't find the navigation to be intuitive. An intuitive navigation system is key to the flow and easy of use for a wiki. Again, I can make a mock version to show you how I think it can be done better.
- "Visual aspect" does not necessarily mean "images" it also means the presentation and themes of templates and page layouts.
- While I can respect a wiki being "functional" and "simple", there are ways to make it dynamic and simple.
I know I've only just introduced myself and my suggestions may come across as over baring, but trust me when I say it's for the better of the wiki. I see a lot of potential here and I really think it can be made greater! Maybe if you can look at the situation as: I am an organizer and designer while you do all the laborious writing. I will properly organize all your heard work while giving it a good face-lift!
If you take look at my About Me page and look at the wikis I admin, such as the Wolf's Rain, Chobits and and CLAMP (those are all wikis I have redesigned by myself) you will see I know what I am doing and that I can give this wiki the same or similar treatment! If not, then I may just make my own wiki. I don't want to butt heads with anyone.
I understand your reasoning for the Message Wall, but I find it and the Talk pages have no real difference in usage and there's no real reason to turn it on either other than you wishing to use it. Either it a message wall or talk page better is just a matter of opinion.
As for the level of navigation, I do plan to improve it by the improving the navigation box. While I do have the skills it coding like you do, I do know I necessary need to it because I can get a model of parameters from looking at the source code of other navigation boxes from other wikis. Plus, I can ask others for help and I can figure things pretty quickly if I put in the effort. I already started making a new navigational box: Template:Navbox
Due to the series small and contained nature, I always planned to have ONE, large overall navigation box to put in all the pages. It's only it basic stage, but I'm will continue to improve it. The same goes of page layouts too. I might not have actual coding skills, but I do have a vision of what I want to do.
Also, your idea for improving the character's infox layout, basing off of this - one - while I like the sleek look, you do understand the sections like "characteristic", "interests" and "voiced" won't be necessary since most of characters never got colored pages of themselves, we don't know their body colors and there's not a lot of trivial stuff for a large portion of characters. There's other types of infoboxes style that might better of the Ultimo Wiki. Do you have any other options?
And don't mean to butt heads either and I mean to come across overbearing or stubborn either. Having been by myself for so long, I always has my own plans of what I want in the long-term and simply never got to do the coding parts because I don't need to at the moment. I do welcome any help with coding, if you still choose to help.
You say you're "an organizer and designer" and you'll leave me with all the "laborious writing" to me, but if I may ask a forward question - how long do you plan to be active on the Ultimo Wiki? Once the pages layouts and Templates are improved, what then? Are you planning taking a back seat? Because I won't grant anyone with "Moderator" status to anyone that will just go away afterwards since there's not a lot do when it just comes down to pages layout and coding, and technically I figure all the stuff by myself. I want to niche the Ultimo Wiki and make it as concise as possible.
While seeing duplicate wikis for a series is pet peeve of mine, if want your own Ultimo wiki, you free to do so. And I'm sure you know that you can't take anything from my wiki since that's against the FANDOM Wikia rules. --Ultimo Hana (talk) 20:57, May 16, 2020 (UTC)
1.Message Wall vs. Talk Page
There is a difference and i have had enough experience with both to have developed a preference out of ease of use. I find talk pages to be messy and take longer to look through.
2.One Big Nav Box
I don't think one large nav box is a good idea. I think you are simplifying the series and limiting the amount of information provided. Like the series Wolf's Rain, it is very small, but the wiki is substantial enough. It all depends on how you decide to present information.
3.The Wolf's Rain Character Infobox
I'm aware not all the fields apply. It was the overall design of the infobox; not necessarily including all the same sections.
4.Butting Heads and My "Plan"
At this point, it still feels like you want to do everything yourself and I just sit back and make grammatical corrections. If I were allowed to do what I put forth, and finished my ideas. I wouldn't abandon the wiki. I'd probably slow down my activities as there is only so much I can do on such a small wiki. But I wouldn't just throw my hands up in the air and say "well, I've done what I wanted to do; see ya!" I'd still help manage the wiki and do work where I can.
5.A Second Wiki
I'm aware that I wouldn't be allowed to copy info from this wiki to the second. But I will say now, that the info will be technically duplicated and there are only so many ways 1 fact can be worded and reworded. I, personally, hate copying and take pride in being able to do things without the need to copy. So if I do start another wiki, you can rest easy that I wouldn't be just copy and pasting the pages from this wiki.
P.S. This is another reason why Talk Pages are a bad idea:
Message Wall vs. Talk Page: We're clearly at an impasse, but either way it's your personal preference to use it as it is my preference to use Talk Page. But my decision won't change. Sorry. That image you used is from way back and the account user isn't even around any more. The person looks like that tired to customize their signature and didn't know how to do it. It's not reason to say Talk Pages are bad. I'm also deleting the image gallery since it's shouldn't be there.
I think one big NavBox is the ideal way to go. Small cast of characters, limited terminology, very few major locations and I have said I'm planning to combine or outright delete some stuff in the future to keep everything together, and the series has only 51 chapters and 3 extra materials. There's no need for excess. You said it yourself, it's a small wiki about a small series.
You're naturally free to make grammatical corrections around the wiki if you wish so, as well as giving new infoboxs styles a try, but it seems we have different ideas overall. Of course, you free to make you're own wiki if you want to. --Ultimo Hana (talk) 23:35, May 16, 2020 (UTC)
The image wasn't about the response, it was about the "someone started editing this page while you were editing" notification that popped up. Something that wouldn't have happened if communication was on message walls.
I find I'm disagreeing too much with the decisions you're making and there has been little to no give for my suggestions. I'm making my own wiki now. Good luck with yours.
Understood. Good luck with yours as well. While I understand similarities may pop up on your wiki, I'll be keeping an eye on things and ensures duplication will be avoid too. --Ultimo Hana (talk) 20:52, May 17, 2020 (UTC)